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Jaw and chin trembling

Postby markgerard on October 2nd, 2006, 8:16 pm

Hello everyone,
I've seen other postings on this forum in different places about those with BFS having their teeth chatter and I've seen postings from those who say when they smile, their cheek muscles and/or corners of mouth will twitch a bit. I get both of these symptoms.

I don't know if this is related or not but I have noticed a few times lately (especially when I'm anxious) that my bottom jaw and chin and bottom lip will tremor a bit, almost as if I am going to say something and stutter like I'm nervous. I hope I'm describing this properly - it's like your whole bottom lip/chin area wants to "chatter" up against your upper lip (just like the teeth do if you hold them close together). Especially if your lips are both fairly close together. If you hold your mouth wide open, it doesn't seem to happen.

Has anyone else had this? I need a reality check - this one is frightening me.

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Postby SuziQ on October 2nd, 2006, 8:32 pm

Hi Mark,
Yes, I've had this sort of jaw tremoring. I've also had ratcheting in my jaw as well, which I've noticed when speaking or chewing. I've even had a lip quiver from time-to-time...no biggie, no worries.

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Postby markgerard on October 2nd, 2006, 9:45 pm

Thanks for your reply Sue - what exactly do you mean by ratcheting? I see that a lot on here and I'm sure what it means. I think lip quivering may be a good way to describe what I'm getting but the jaw does seem to move a bit along with the chin - the whole bottom part of my face. It's quite subtle but still scary.
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Postby TriJeff on October 3rd, 2006, 9:25 am

I have the lip, jaw, eye, and teeth chattering thing. Flares big time after I lift weights and reduces with arobic exercise. - weird

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Postby markgerard on October 3rd, 2006, 12:43 pm

Thanks for the reply Jeff. I think the best way to describe it is like a "shivering" of the bottom lip/chin/jaw - I couldn't think of the right word last night when I made the original post. It doesn't happen a lot, mostly when I am anxious.

Has anyone else had this feeling?
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Postby SuziQ on October 3rd, 2006, 6:39 pm

Mark, ratcheting is, not to sound redundant, but; kind of a ratchety type movement of a joint. There is a sort of intermittent hesitation along the range of motion.

I hope that helps, or perhaps it is clear as mud. :cry:

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Postby markgerard on October 3rd, 2006, 8:13 pm

Hi Sue,
I know now exactly what ratcheting is as I did some searching around and it was a rather dumb question for me to ask (duh). I haven't had the ratcheting yet.

I'm still trying to figure out what's going on with this lip chattering/trembling/quivering/shivering - whatever we want to call it. I just seem to have so much activity in my facial areas right now. It's really frightening me into thinking this is something more than BFS.
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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby dawiz on April 10th, 2008, 11:11 pm

markgerard wrote:I don't know if this is related or not but I have noticed a few times lately (especially when I'm anxious) that my bottom jaw and chin and bottom lip will tremor a bit, almost as if I am going to say something and stutter like I'm nervous. I hope I'm describing this properly - it's like your whole bottom lip/chin area wants to "chatter" up against your upper lip (just like the teeth do if you hold them close together). Especially if your lips are both fairly close together. If you hold your mouth wide open, it doesn't seem to happen.


Mark - are you still having that? I had a shot last week (tick-borne encephalitis) and a couple days later the jaw/lip trembling started. This thing drives me nuts - feels like my jaw is constantly moving when I'm at rest. I've had the teeth "chattering" when I move them close together for years. There's a slight trembling of the lips visible when I watch them closely (my wife doesn't see it) but the bad thing is that the jaws / lips seem to be moving all the time in short jerky moves, giving me a hard time falling asleep at night - last night it even woke me up. It's not a rhythmical tremor, it's more like a trembling in all directions - but also unlike the usual twitching I have everywhere else.
This thing is scaring the crap out of me as lip tremors seem to be typical for PD (and not much else).

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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby BOSTER on April 11th, 2008, 12:48 pm

I get the lip buzzing/quiver every once in a while, weird by all means, but BFS nonetheless.
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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby zekebcfs on April 11th, 2008, 12:53 pm

You can count me in ont his one. I happens every now and then.
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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby dawiz on April 12th, 2008, 5:29 am

Thanks for the replies - that took the edge off my panic attack. I guess I'll go have myself checked out for hyperthyroidism since I've also been experiencing palpitations for several weeks now.

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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby markgerard on April 18th, 2008, 9:32 pm

dawiz wrote:Mark - are you still having that? I had a shot last week (tick-borne encephalitis) and a couple days later the jaw/lip trembling started. This thing drives me nuts - feels like my jaw is constantly moving when I'm at rest. I've had the teeth "chattering" when I move them close together for years. There's a slight trembling of the lips visible when I watch them closely (my wife doesn't see it) but the bad thing is that the jaws / lips seem to be moving all the time in short jerky moves, giving me a hard time falling asleep at night - last night it even woke me up. It's not a rhythmical tremor, it's more like a trembling in all directions - but also unlike the usual twitching I have everywhere else.
This thing is scaring the crap out of me as lip tremors seem to be typical for PD (and not much else).
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Sorry - this one seemed to slip by me as I've been off the forum again for a while. Yes - I am getting this a lot again lately and I hate it. In the mornings when I get up, I really get the jaw/lip trembling thing. Always the worst when I am anxious and it just doesn't seem like it wants to go away. I get the exact same symptoms as you have described. I am seeing a movement disorder specialist in July as I worry very much about PD considering what my fingers have been doing lately so I will post more info once I have seen this neuro. It does seem to be quite common on this forum, though - that is the good part of it. I'm hypothyroid myself so this may be contributing to it.

Hang in there - I'm sure we're both just worrying too much and I'm sure we'll both be ok. Nevertheless, it won't hurt to see a specialist and I'm hoping to get in on a cancellation sooner than July.

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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby dawiz on April 19th, 2008, 11:21 am

markgerard wrote:
Sorry - this one seemed to slip by me as I've been off the forum again for a while. Yes - I am getting this a lot again lately and I hate it. In the mornings when I get up, I really get the jaw/lip trembling thing. Always the worst when I am anxious and it just doesn't seem like it wants to go away. I get the exact same symptoms as you have described. I am seeing a movement disorder specialist in July as I worry very much about PD considering what my fingers have been doing lately so I will post more info once I have seen this neuro. It does seem to be quite common on this forum, though - that is the good part of it. I'm hypothyroid myself so this may be contributing to it.


Hi Mark,

I got my test results back and my blood is fine - I'm not hyperthyroid or hypothyroid and my blood sugar levels are fine, too. I showed the trembling to my GP and he couldn't see it either. I got another Neuro appointment on May 19 because it worries me too much. I hope this turns out to be nothing but as is the case with most BFS symptoms: until the Neuro tells you you're fine, you can't relax and the symptoms won't go away. I believe the trembling has improved a bit - sometimes I don't feel it for several hours now and I can hardly see it anymore myself - knock on wood. My white blood-cell count was a bit low so the doctor said this could very well be a reaction to a virus infection or the tick-shot I got a week before the trembling began.

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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby c4110djh on April 19th, 2008, 11:33 pm

I have had these symptoms a lot. Best wishes, Denise
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Re: Jaw and chin trembling

Postby jjittery on April 21st, 2008, 3:02 pm

this is definitely one of my most annoying symptoms, and I expereince it almost daily and have for quite some time now. Whenever I smile I can see and feel a crazy cheek tremor. I can feel it during a smile when wearing sunglasses, the feeling radiates (from the glasses). I also get the facial stiffness with it. It is much worse during cold weather. No Neuro I have ever seen is concerned.
I think it is just bfs/pnhe or whataver...The facial muscles should be no different than any others (I keep telling myself), I also get the trembling limbs and shaky muscles on and off whenever force is applied.

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