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Scientists try to study Chi

Postby SecretAgentMan on February 1st, 2015, 9:25 pm

For those that don't know, Chi is the Chinese word for life force energy. It goes by many names by different cultures around the world. This is a youtube video where some scientists and National Geographic try to observe and measure the focused Chi of a trained Qi Gong martial artist, a Shaolin Warrior named Wong. Wong participates in two scientifically observed and measured demonstrations that would under normal circumstances cause great harm to a human being. Wong channels his energy through his practiced methods to protect himself in seemingly impossible ways. The video is only 10 minutes, but here are some highlights just in case.

In the video before the first demonstration one of the scientists says, "As a scientist, I can't measure Chi. It's something that's not measurable. It's something that I cannot quantify."

Later in the video clip after the second demonstration the narrator says, "Even having the most advanced tools, there's currently no way to measure Chi. Whatever Shaolin Warrior Wong's technique, there is no denying it's results. For now the hidden strength of this defense will remain a mystery."

Here is the video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tb8bWbA678

The reason I am posting this is to raise awareness about Chi or life force energy and why you don't hear about it from scientists. They have no way of measuring it and therefore cannot verify that it exists. That does not mean it does not exist though. The abilities demonstrated in this video are pretty phenomenal, as are the abilities of anyone who master's an art. This Chi he demonstrates is the very same Chi that acupuncturists work with. We all have it. Most of us are unaware of it, but because we have it we can experience it if we let ourselves. It is a vital part of who we are and how our health manifests itself whether we are acknowledge it or not. Perhaps consider seriously looking within to find your own Chi and working with it on a daily basis to restore vitality and health in this area. Thanks for reading/watching.
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Re: Scientists try to study Chi

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Re: Scientists try to study Chi

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Re: Scientists try to study Chi

Postby SecretAgentMan on February 10th, 2015, 8:02 pm

Thanks for the link Buzznerd, that was good. Everything in that video actually made perfect sense to me. The martial arts guy seems to be very tuned in to Chi and puts on several very fascinating demonstrations. He comes across as overly confident and arrogant though which of course comes back to bite him in the end. There is an old saying that you should be humble or you will be humbled. The 'debunking' is not very thorough and unfortunately leaves a hole it it's own theory just from the source video that was provided. If it were a hypnotic trance, how would the line of people be moved when they have their backs to the man and are even further hidden from him by a sheet? From my own learned knowledge and understanding of Chi, the skeptic seems to be demonstrating the ability of an individual to focus their own Chi as a method of protecting themselves. You see, Chi is as intimately a part of you as your own thoughts and emotions. In fact, your mind is what directs it, consciously and subconsciously.

There are some interesting scientific experiments that validate exactly what the skeptic accomplished by not allowing himself to be knocked down. The experiments were conducted by Dr. William Braud. Below is an excerpt from the book 'The Source Field Investigations' by David Wilcock with references to Dr. Braud's work in documenting 'remote influencing' and the ability to protect against it. I am including this and these references because it perfectly fits with the skeptic's ability to block the demonstration. In my eyes this does not prove Chi is not real, but it further demonstrates that we are not helpless against the aggressive acts of others whether they be physical or energetic. Thank you again for the link.

The Source Field Investigations wrote:Rigorous Laboratory Proof of Consciousness Transfer

Thankfully, other scientists have performed similar experiments, further validating Backster’s initial results, without disappearing or being threatened. Dr. Charles Tart, from Berkeley, set up a bizarre experiment where he gave himself painful electrical shocks, automatically—and then attempted to “send” his pain to another person who was the “receiver.” This person was wired up to measure heart rate, blood volume and other physiological signals. Tart found that the receiver’s body did indeed respond to the shocks—through things such as an increase in heart rate and a decrease in blood volume—but the receiver had no conscious knowledge of when Dr. Tart was sending them.12

Probably the greatest modern pioneer in these sorts of experiments is Dr. William Braud. According to Lynne McTaggart in The Field, Dr. Braud began by performing an experiment in the late 1960s in which he attempted to transmit his thoughts to one of his students—while the student was under hypnosis. When Dr. Braud pricked his hand, the student felt pain. When he put his hand over a candle flame, the student felt heat. When he stared at a picture of a boat, the student made comments about a boat. When Braud stepped into the sun, the student mentioned sunlight. Distance did not seem to matter; even when Braud was many miles away, it worked just as well.13 This certainly suggests that the Backster Effect is just the beginning—we share much more information with one another than just the shocks from our nervous system. As the years went by, Dr. Braud sought ways to study this effect under controlled laboratory conditions—and he has now published more than 250 articles in professional psychology journals, and written numerous book chapters.14 -15

Braud’s first rigorous laboratory experiment involved knife fish, which emit electrical signals that change whenever they move from one position to another. These electrical signals can be used to precisely determine the fish’s position, and can be picked up by electrodes attached to the side of the tank. Braud’s participants were consistently able to change the position of the fish by their conscious intent alone. Similarly, Braud found that participants could increase the speed that Mongolian gerbils ran on their activity wheels, with all other factors being ruled out. Braud also designed an experiment in which he put human red blood cells in a test tube—along with a saline solution that had enough salt in it to kill the cells. His participants were able to focus their minds and protect these cells from bursting open. This was easily verified by measuring how much light could pass through the solution. The more the cells broke down, the more transparent the solution became—so less light was a sign of healthier cells.16

From there, Braud moved on to human beings. Have you ever felt someone staring at you, only to turn around and find out you were right? Braud wanted to see if he could study this effect in the lab, and confirm that it really works. He put one person in a private room with a small video camera, wired him up to the polygraph and told him to relax. In a neighboring room, he could see the participant’s face on his television monitor. A second participant was then told to stare intently at this person on the monitor and try to get his attention—but only when a computerized random-number generator told them to. Sure enough, when the first person was being stared at, his skin revealed significant electrical spikes. This occurred an average of 59 percent of the time he was being stared at—as opposed to the 50 percent that would be expected by random chance.17 This might not sound like much, but a 9-percent increase above chance is considered highly substantial.

Dr. Braud then changed the experiment. He had his participants meet each other first—and stare intently into each other’s eyes while they talked. He encouraged them to get comfortable with each other. Now, when the person was stared at by his new friend, he noticeably relaxed—on a measurable electrical level.18 This is solid proof that people can be staring at us, sending us their pain, transmitting thoughts—and even though our bodies may react to these signals on a physical level, we usually don’t have any conscious awareness of what’s going on. The same thing might be happening when the phone rings and we think we know who it is—only to find out we were right. When the caller visualizes our face, we feel something—and if our mind is quiet enough, we might get a mental image of who it is. Rupert Sheldrake, one of the most renowned Source Field investigators in modern times, also has proven “the sense of being stared at” is indeed genuine—in multiple, published experiments.19

The Outer Limits of Shared Consciousness

Minor anxiety disorders, like nervousness and the inability to concentrate, also were measurably improved in Dr. Braud’s studies. In an experiment from 1983, Dr. Braud and an anthropologist named Marilyn Schlitz studied a group of highly nervous people along with a group of calmer people. The nervousness of each group, in this case, could be directly measured by the amount of electrical activity on their skin. In some cases, the groups were given common relaxation techniques and instructed to calm themselves down. In other cases, Braud and Schlitz tried to calm them down by simply concentrating on them from another room. The originally calm group showed very little change by practicing the exercises or being “remote influenced,” but the nervous group became much calmer—in both cases. Surprisingly, Braud and Schlitz’s remote influencing effects upon the nervous group worked almost as well as any relaxation exercises they did for themselves.20 Similarly, when Braud and Schlitz remotely concentrated on someone in an attempt to help him focus his attention, the subject had an immediate improvement. The people whose minds were the most apt to wander gained the strongest benefits from this process.21

Thankfully, Braud also found out that we are not helpless against these remote influences—we can shield the ones we don’t want.22 If you visualize a protective shield, a safe, a barrier or a screen—whatever you feel comfortable with—you can indeed stop these influences from affecting you.23 The remote influencers did not know which participants were trying to block their thoughts, but the people who did try to shield themselves were successful.24 Other evidence suggests a positive attitude in life is your best protection, as we will see—the highest “coherence” wins.

12 Tart, Charles. “Physiological Correlates of Psi Cognition.” International Journal of Parapsychology, 1963: 5; 375–86.
13 McTaggart, Lynne. The Field: The Quest for the Secret Force of the Universe. New York: HarperCollins, 2002; pp. 126–127.
14 Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. William Braud’s Faculty Profile. http://www.itp.edu/academics/faculty/braud.php (accessed December 2010).
15 Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. William Braud: Publications. http://www.itp.edu/academics/faculty/br ... ations.php (accessed December 2010).
16 Braud, W. and Schlitz, M. J. “Consciousness interactions with remote biological systems: anomalous intentionality effects.” Subtle Energies, 1991; 2(1): 1–46.
17 Schlitz, M. and LaBerge, S. “Autonomic detection of remote observation: two conceptual replications.” In Bierman (ed), Proceedings of Presented Papers: 465–78.
18 Braud, W., et al.: “Further Studies of autonomic detection of remote staring: replication, new control procedures and personality correlates.” Journal of Parapsychology, 1993; 57: 391–409.
19 Sheldrake, Rupert. Papers on the Sense of Being Stared At. Sheldrake.org. http://www.sheldrake.org/Articles&Paper ... index.html (accessed December 2010).
20 Braud, W. and Schlitz, M. Psychokinetic influence on electrodermal activity. Journal of Parapsychology, 1983; 47(2): 95–119.
21 Braud, W., et al.: “Attention focusing facilitated through remote mental interaction.” Journal of the American Society for Psychical Research, 1995; 89(2): 103–15.
22 Braud, W. G. “Blocking/shielding psychic functioning through psychological and psychic techniques: a report of three preliminary studies.” In White, R. and Solfvin, I. (eds), Research in Parapsychology, 1984 Metuchen, NJ: Scarecrow Press, 1985, pp. 42–44.
23 Braud, W. G., “Implications and applications of laboratory psi findings.” European Journal of Parapsychology, 1990–91; 8: 57–65.
24 Braud, W., et al. “Further studies of the bio-PK effect: feedback, blocking, generality/ specificity.” In White, R. and Solfvin, I. (eds), Research in Parapsychology: 45–48.
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Re: Scientists try to study Chi

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Re: Scientists try to study Chi

Postby SecretAgentMan on February 11th, 2015, 5:41 pm

The excerpt above is just as relevant for this video. Again, I believe it demonstrates the participatory nature of our energy and that it cannot be abused if we don't let it. If it is one thing we learn from observing nature it is that everything is part of a system of balance. Each part of the system can influence the others but no one part is directly in control of the others. Just because an influence can be averted, does not mean the source of the influence is non-existent.
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