Juicing and vitamin B12.

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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby jerry2 on January 28th, 2013, 1:41 pm

BFSBurger wrote:Nuts and dry fruits cause crazy flatulence. I can't eat trail mix without having enough gas to power a nuclear submarine.

Raisins and dried fruits like that are almost pure fiber and fiber causes flatulence.

Jerry what happens if you eat chicken breast and stir fry veggies with nothing on it?

Still problems? Thats my safest meal. Zero issues after.

Interesting to see the intestinal tie once again. Just like seventhcandle - food sets him off. LaurentCH, me, ...


Yes I have intestinal tie to BFS but I can not find food that sets me off, it seems I have better and worse periods but no matter what I eat :-(

I'll try chicken breast and stir fry vegetables (on oil I suppose) and let you know.

What the fu*k can I eat not to eat unhelthy and not to power a nuclear submarine and to stop this twitching, grrr...

Tell me... does your vegetable juice cause flatulence to you? I am deciding between the 8006 and the vertical 350 Omega juicer. Why did you go for older 8006 instead of the new one, any special reason?
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby jerry2 on January 28th, 2013, 1:43 pm

aztwitchy wrote:
jerry2 wrote:I did some home test for intolerances from blood and I wasn't really intolerant to anything, but I think something is making my gut miserable for so many years... It all happened after I poisioned from old toilet hoses when we made a new bathroom. I was so much poisioned I thought I will be dead by evening. I throw up every 5 minutes and I had wated from my back every 5 minutes. I has such nausea I could not stand up but could only crawl on my knees. It lasted for 12 hours. 3 months later I got chronic stomac/colon problems. Now they are not that bad but they flair from time to time and the fasting was not a good idea for me.

No, I don't eat potatoes now. I use Montignac diet now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montignac_diet if you want to take a look at what this is.

I eat a lot of nuts now, dry fruits etc.



wow jerry....was this poisoning before your BFS symptoms? Have you consulted a digestive specialist?


I have not consulted the specialist. Poisining was in 2005, my IBS began 3 months later, my neuro symptoms began in end of 2011.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby jerry2 on January 28th, 2013, 1:45 pm

chicagobfs wrote:http://www.ukjuicers.com/samson-advanced-juicer-gb-9005-black. This look very similar to what burger has, if not the same.


I think same factory, yes. I plan to buy from that very webpage from UK. In my country it is 15% more expensive with less guarantie (you have to pay for 15 years on motor 50 EURO), stupid...
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby aztwitchy on January 28th, 2013, 3:36 pm

jerry2 wrote:
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jerry2 wrote:I did some home test for intolerances from blood and I wasn't really intolerant to anything, but I think something is making my gut miserable for so many years... It all happened after I poisioned from old toilet hoses when we made a new bathroom. I was so much poisioned I thought I will be dead by evening. I throw up every 5 minutes and I had wated from my back every 5 minutes. I has such nausea I could not stand up but could only crawl on my knees. It lasted for 12 hours. 3 months later I got chronic stomac/colon problems. Now they are not that bad but they flair from time to time and the fasting was not a good idea for me.

No, I don't eat potatoes now. I use Montignac diet now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montignac_diet if you want to take a look at what this is.

I eat a lot of nuts now, dry fruits etc.



wow jerry....was this poisoning before your BFS symptoms? Have you consulted a digestive specialist?


I have not consulted the specialist. Poisining was in 2005, my IBS began 3 months later, my neuro symptoms began in end of 2011.


interesting...i would consult a digestive specialist...malabsorption can easily be contributing to the severity of your symptoms due to some kind of issue with your gut (LGS, intestinal permeability, etc...) sorry to hear jerry...hope you can figure out some diet changes that help.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby jerry2 on January 28th, 2013, 5:02 pm

In fact I did consult the specialist for alergies. She told me food can not be so strong alergen to make bodywide twitching. She has at least never heard someone twitching because of food intolerances. She told me problems are usually milder and constrained to intestines problems, skin problems etc. not nerve problems.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby aztwitchy on January 28th, 2013, 6:32 pm

jerry2 wrote:In fact I did consult the specialist for alergies. She told me food can not be so strong alergen to make bodywide twitching. She has at least never heard someone twitching because of food intolerances. She told me problems are usually milder and constrained to intestines problems, skin problems etc. not nerve problems.


yeah i think in your case you might be deficient in some type of electrolytes, minerals, or vitamins due to gut issues...not necessarily food allergies. Not sure if you have had all the bloodwork done to determine this or not. I would think the juicing would definitely help someone in your case though because juicing removes all the fiber which can cause bloating\gas etc... in some people. still might be a good idea to speak to a gastro doc if you can afford to do so. just my 2 cents. might not solve the BFS but at least the IBS. Then again perhaps its all related to anxiety. IBS is a symptom of Fibro, anxiety, and some of the other hard to nail down "syndromes"
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby jerry2 on January 29th, 2013, 1:50 am

aztwitchy wrote:
jerry2 wrote:In fact I did consult the specialist for alergies. She told me food can not be so strong alergen to make bodywide twitching. She has at least never heard someone twitching because of food intolerances. She told me problems are usually milder and constrained to intestines problems, skin problems etc. not nerve problems.


yeah i think in your case you might be deficient in some type of electrolytes, minerals, or vitamins due to gut issues...not necessarily food allergies. Not sure if you have had all the bloodwork done to determine this or not. I would think the juicing would definitely help someone in your case though because juicing removes all the fiber which can cause bloating\gas etc... in some people. still might be a good idea to speak to a gastro doc if you can afford to do so. just my 2 cents. might not solve the BFS but at least the IBS. Then again perhaps its all related to anxiety. IBS is a symptom of Fibro, anxiety, and some of the other hard to nail down "syndromes"


It took me 7 years to go to all kinds of IBS specialists and nobody had a clue what is wrong with me, I had mucus, 5 times defecation a day, diahhroea, pain in the anus for 4 months, you name it and I've had it EXCEPT BLOOD. I never had blood in stool.

I was better then and only have occasional flare up like now.

Wierd thing is I've had severe serbhoreic dermatitis of the face for 15 years. Nothing helped and I was at dermatologist about 30 times and we both gave up. It is not curable but nothing helped to ease my red patches on face. I was looking terrible and I was feeling in flames all the time, except when I was at the sea, everything miracously dissapeared.

The day my dermatitis eased is the day I got my BFS. I have one cream which I think is responsible for my dermatitis gone that kills fungus and I apply little on the face every morning. Some days I wonder if such cream applied locally could made me BFS but I say to myself, that is not possible, to locally. Had to be a coincidence.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby carphia on February 5th, 2013, 11:04 pm

Juicing does have its nutritional benefits, more-so in a world today were many lack essential vitamins thanks to our fast food nation. I myself was taking B-12 a while back when I had no idea what was going on with my fassics, and I did notice some improvement. Same goes with vitamin D, which I now take 1,000 I.U.'s a day, I notice alot less fatigue.

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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby Fabiola on February 6th, 2013, 4:53 pm

Finally I find a place with people who can understand me... it has been a two years and a half nightmare... I,ve tried many things... but no vitamin D or juice... I'm gonna try with all the effort of my heart and faith... Fabiola
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby aztwitchy on February 6th, 2013, 5:06 pm

juicing has been one of the few things that has actually helped me big time....if you guys aren't doing it you are missing out.

I would follow BFSBurgers recommendations of which veggies\fruits to use and avoid.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby Fabiola on February 6th, 2013, 5:13 pm

But please tell me one many juices per day or how many times per day ??
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby aztwitchy on February 6th, 2013, 6:15 pm

Fabiola wrote:But please tell me one many juices per day or how many times per day ??



I have been juicing every other day...I make 24-32 oz and have half one day throughout the day and half the next.

its not cheap but its worth it.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby BFSBurger on February 6th, 2013, 10:09 pm

This is really a "whole-istic" approach of calming your body, your nerves, your muscles ...

Learning what things promote inflammation in your body is, I think, key to figuring out what to avoid, and begin to manage this condition.

Like I have said many times - when I finally started to identify some "cause and effect" that was repeatable with BFS - i finally realized how I could put together a regimen that would help me.

Juicing doesnt stop twitching. At least not by itself. But it does drastic things to calm inflammation and saturate your tissues with necessary phytonutrients that aid in proper cellular functions. Over time (weeks), I believe it does play a role. But juicing by itself is nowhere near enough. I can have emotional stress and juice like crazy - and still twitch like crazy. I can be completely calm emotionally, juice like crazy, and if I don't have regular intervals of whole body resistance training - the muscle pains, nerve jabbing, joint pains, tendon aches, muscle spacicity, etc will come back with a vengeance. I can be juicing daily, exercising once every 4 days, and emotionally calm, but still need my Dead Sea salt baths to saturate my muscles and provide whatever it is they provide for calming, relaxing of nerve endings, electrolyte replacement (god knows what). I need my gatorade daily ... for whatever reason. I need 4 full days of rest between workouts in order to see benefit (as opposed to increased fatigue) from exercising.

Im learning (my new discovery for the week) that I have to keep up with my whole regimen, or the other parts of the regimen don't do a d*mn thing. I often think about this because I know some people here are trying one thing. (juicing) or trying another thing (dead sea salt baths) .... and then probably will quit because it did nothing. For me .... i need to do everything. Consistently. Or nothing works.

Google anti inflammatory vegetables - to answer the question posed above by Fabiola.
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby Fabiola on February 6th, 2013, 11:05 pm

Thanks, BFSBurger... Conclusion: I need more discipline but most of all I need to calm my mind, my emotional stress is the big problem. Many people around me has insisted: if you don't calm your mind your body won't react. I'm trying to calm my mind with some meditation and chi kung exercises. So, I will combine these methods with the other things you suggested (juicing, dead sea salt baths, and some light exercises) + acupuncture. I need to have faith in myself and in my body, I believe that we can do it!! The good thing of all this mess is that I'm learning more about myself, about my body and my thoughts, I just need to be patient and persistent.

Just a question... I was swimming twice a week like 40 minutes aproximately and not so hard... do you think is a good exercise or is too hard for the twitch alleviation objective??

Thanks again for replying so fast :D
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Re: Juicing and vitamin B12.

Postby chicagobfs on February 7th, 2013, 12:20 am

Fabiola wrote:
Just a question... I was swimming twice a week like 40 minutes aproximately and not so hard... do you think is a good exercise or is too hard for the twitch alleviation objective??

Thanks again for replying so fast :D

I don't think that burger can tell if its too much or not enough, you should see how your body reacts to it. If you have no trouble recovering from that workout I think it's a great idea! The think is not o overdue, but everybody is different.
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