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Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby muppetdog on June 6th, 2013, 2:17 pm

Hey all,

I am just curious how many of you out there use sleeping pills.
I use Lunesta 2mg pretty much every night.

So, what do the rest of you use?
How much?
How often?

Thanks,
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby raindog on June 6th, 2013, 5:42 pm

muppetdog wrote:Hey all,

I am just curious how many of you out there use sleeping pills.
I use Lunesta 2mg pretty much every night.

So, what do the rest of you use?
How much?
How often?

Thanks,
MD


I vape a small amount of weed about an hour or so before bed, best there is for pain and sleep issues. I Sleep like a baby and nocturnal cramping is now a thing of the past too :D
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby mwagner on June 6th, 2013, 8:30 pm

Interesting Raindog. Colorado just made it legal.

I take Simply Sleep every night (which is basically benadryl) except for about two nights a week, where I take Ambien one of those nights and Xanax another one of those nights. I have tried sleeping without anything and I sleep about 5 hours and then I'm wide awake. With two kids who frequently wake me up, I have to have something that makes me groggy enough to fall back asleep.

If I'm under a lot of stress/anxiety - my Xanax intake increases, but never by more than 2-3 times a week, on really bad weeks.

I'm trying to wean myself completely off of Ambien and only take Xanax once a week.
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Postby sibelius on June 7th, 2013, 1:00 am

Yep, I take 30mg of Temazepam nightly since January. Having major insomnia since December. Developed a tremor under my left eyelid when I closed my eye. This was a major cause of insomnia. Temazepam worked well for about 8 weeks but gradually is losing effectiveness (like I thought it would - not a good long term solution). Just had botox injection under eyelid to freeze nerve. Supposed to take a few weeks for full effect to kick in. Will likely need to have injections every 3-4 months or so. If this works I will try to slowly ween myself of the Temazepam. I knew benzos are potentially very addicting and only recommended for short (1-2 week) periods but sometimes extenuating circumstances require chemical intervention. I really would not recommend benzos if you can avoid it. But like many here, I was suffering from major anxiety and for a while they did the trick. As my anxiety level decreased, I found I was sleeping better. Still having issues but not as bad as before where I would routinely be unable to sleep at all a few days a week.
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby raindog on June 7th, 2013, 4:09 pm

Also in respect of sleep i was diagnosed recently with quite significant central sleep apnea (hypoapnea) apparently its even happening while i'm awake like when i'm on the PC watching tv etc its like i subconsciously take long pauses in my breathing then take a few really deep breaths. Its also very common in neuromuscular diseases.

When i was first diagnosed i kind of freaked out a bit because i though that i may have been developing respiritory failure but the consultant reassured me i wasnt but it can be troublesome to treat. I did try a CPAP device but i never get on with it because it was a major problem for me to exhale like i wanted to. At the moment i'm not on any meds or cpap bipap or asv device and its something i may have to just put up with. :?
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby magnetizzum on June 12th, 2013, 4:22 am

I was sporadically using simply sleep and Tylenol pm type products. In April I could not rest well at all, so for around three weeks I used the products every night, interestingly that's when my twitching started. I have found some articles that mention muscle twitching can be a side effect of long term use of dyfenhydramime which is the active ingredient in those products. I rest great using them, but am now scared to.
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Postby chrissi on June 12th, 2013, 6:21 am

None at all. I was given a sleeping pill once in hospital and I got really bad hallucinations and double visions. I spray lavender oil scent around when I cannot sleep . I know, I am a hippie :wink:. Personally I would for sure prefer a joint to a chemical drug if it is legal in your coutry. My alternative neighbour always wanted to cure my BFS with weed , and he was so obsessed with it I hardly dared to eat something over there. Cannot be stoned when caring for my toddlers and in Germany you need 48 hours after weed before you are allowed to drive my car, so I never had the chance to try this as a sleeping aid.
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby mwagner on June 12th, 2013, 10:14 am

@Magnetizzum... I use Simply Sleep about 5 days a week (maybe more). I also read that muscle twitching is a side effect. When I first started twitching, I stopped taking them completely (and took Ambien, Kavinase (natural Gaba supporting supplement with phenibut in it) etc. instead and my twitching has never stopped. And, I notice I twitch less when using Simply Sleep rather than Xanax or Ambien.

I have horrible sleep issues. If I take nothing at all, I get about 4 hours of very restless sleep.

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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby ag2002 on June 12th, 2013, 2:12 pm

I used ambien right after all of my symptoms started. It made me very depressed. Of course, I was already extremely depressed because of my symptoms. After the ambien I tried remeron (antidepressant) as a sleep aid one night. Never again, I had vivid scary dreams and I woke up with my pulse beating around 140 times a minute. Next, I tried resterol, which worked well but I felt tired all day. I also took the extended release version of ambien and it was okay. I took all of those sleep aids within about a 2 week time frame. I could not sleep because I had intense nerve pain in both of my forearms and tingling in both of my hands. For me it was a downward spiral of anxiety, depression, insomnia, and BFS symptoms that just began to snowball. I was able to sleep better after I got on Effexor and klonopin. Effexor got rid of the pain and klonopin calmed me down. It was just a matter of finding what worked for me. We all have different brain chemistry's and it is hard to tell how a drug will affect you until you actually take it. It also depends on the source of your insomnia. For me it was multiple things. A year and a half later and I sleep like a baby. I still take 1.25 mg of klonopin, but it is spread throughout the day. Hopefully one day I won't take anything. Once you go into that deep depression it takes a while to come out of most of the time. I hope that you find something that works for you. If at all possible don't take any drug to fall asleep. If you stay busy during the day physically it usually helps (ie. exercise). Also, if you can calm down in the evening with meditation or prayer or reading a boring book it might help. I will be praying for you. Trust me, I know what you are going through. It might not seem like it now, but it will get better. God bless.

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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby Adamk on July 29th, 2013, 12:10 am

I know this is a dead thread but i just thought it interesting as i am up trying to calm myself and sleep.
I have been taking ambien for years along with a antidepressant trazodone. both a pretty high levels with little or no side effects or drowsiness next day. I still have to take a pill to relax but I have thought about trying weed, just never had the guts to try to get any as it is illegal here.

Anyways I don't have any symptoms when on the drugs but I often wonder if taking them for so long made me prone to twitching, I never used to have neurological issues ( except ocd and insomnia) before the pills and since have had tinnitus, mal dembarqment, and twitching! the Dr and Neurologist dont believe this is a side effect of the pills but I wonder if they are just covering their buts so I wont try to sue them for malpractice. I am always trying to find out if others had been on heavy meds before thier twitching started to compare their stories to mine. I feel like if i could just get this crap out of my system I could heal faster but I would go days possibly weeks with little or no sleep, which would make the twitching worse. Ugh its a paradox for sure! I have tried every single thing out there for sleep that is non prescription but have had no success.
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby muppetdog on July 29th, 2013, 11:32 am

Adamk -

Hey man,

Thanks for keeping the thread alive, I think a lot of folks on here have sleeping problems and have to take stuff for it. Heck, the whole population has sleeping problems.

Just my opinion, I would not worry about taking the sleeping pills right now. It is just one more thing that your mind has to process and worry about as a possible cause of what is going on with you. Get the sleep while you can and don't feel guilty about taking the pills. They, most likely did not cause what's going on with you. Maybe they were a factor, but who knows. Keep what you're doing constant and don't mess with the sleep now. Once you get more stable with what's going on, if you wanted, you could try to taper off those. I know when I went off ambien, even when I did not twitch, it was tough and it made me very jittery all day and restless when I slept; it took 2-3 weeks to get that sorted out.

So don't worry about the sleeping pills now, just get the sleep where you can. Thinking about "if they have caused this" just makes everything worse. Go with what you know.

Again, just my opinion. I have done the sleeping pill dance and would rather get the sleep than try to battle the symptoms; the self induced worry about what the drugs are doing to me; and the lack of sleep all at once.

Hope it works out.
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Re: Sleeping Pill Survey

Postby Seepi27 on July 29th, 2013, 4:29 pm

Adamk wrote:I know this is a dead thread but i just thought it interesting as i am up trying to calm myself and sleep.
I have been taking ambien for years along with a antidepressant trazodone. both a pretty high levels with little or no side effects or drowsiness next day. I still have to take a pill to relax but I have thought about trying weed, just never had the guts to try to get any as it is illegal here.

Anyways I don't have any symptoms when on the drugs but I often wonder if taking them for so long made me prone to twitching, I never used to have neurological issues ( except ocd and insomnia) before the pills and since have had tinnitus, mal dembarqment, and twitching!


Ambien is a Z-drug and acts on the same receptors as benzodiazepines. The fact that you've been taking them for years is yet another sad indictment of the health care system, where doctors dole out pills as though they were sugar candy, with few if any thoughts for long-term repercussions. Coming off Z-drugs, like quitting benzodiazepines, can be a long journey through the lower reaches of hell; I hope that when you do come off them, you are one of the very fortunate ones who get by with minimal suffering.

As for whether the Ambien-Trazodone *beep* can cause tinnitus, mal de debarquement and twitching, well, of course they can: you only have to look at Professor Ashton's great manual on benzodiazepine addiction to know that these are three of the least of people's worries. (And yes, I know Ambien isn't a benzo, but it's effects and mode of action are almost identical).


the Dr and Neurologist dont believe this is a side effect of the pills but I wonder if they are just covering their buts so I wont try to sue them for malpractice.


I take it you're in the States, land of the free and instant litigation and all that. Well they are possibly covering themselves, but they may just be really clueless, as many (fallible) doctors and neurologists are. I would do some research, if I were you, and take in a bunch of material which actually documents the harm that can be caused by these poisons.

I am always trying to find out if others had been on heavy meds before thier twitching started to compare their stories to mine.


Yes, six years on a benzo and a year on Zolpidem (Ambien). It was when I tried to come off them both that my problems - and not just twitching - began.
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